Linda in L.A. wrote:
Which is pretty much my point petals. We are left with our gut instinct in trying to decide when Joran is being honest and not. Problem with that is we all have different "guts"...lol.
What he threw at Greta may not seem plausible to you...but can you be sure there was no element of truth in what Joran said in that interview? And if you firmly believe none of it was true...have you asked why he would put his family and Natalee's family through that? Common decency would prevent it. If not for Natalee's family...why not his own?
Was money the reason? If he could turn on his own family for money, do you really think he wasn't capable of covering his own butt that nite if something happened to Natalee?
I'm willing to believe Natalee ran off of her own accord. But no one has given me any reason to believe that. Joran has given me plenty of reason to believe Natalee died that nite.
IMO it is a clear indication of the character that Joran possesses. He is clearly narcissistic and a probable sociopath.
Common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.
* Glibness and Superficial Charm
* Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
* Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
* Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
* Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
* Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
* Incapacity for Love
* Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
* Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
* Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
* Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
* Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
* Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
* Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
IMO Joran fits "quite well" into this category. He has shown little regard for Natalee's or even his own family. Can you imagine how inconsequential Natalee was to him? Many want to continue to make excuses for him because they simply don't want to deal with Joran and his issues. That young man obviously has some problems and is in need of some therapy. If he is not "stopped" in some way he is likely to get in trouble again and the ramifications for those currently affected will likely only get worse.