Hannity & Colmes May 23 TRANSCRIPT

[Heli]

"The latest suspect was released with a surprising alibi"

I can just about guess what they're going to bring up

Can You?

[Bean Bag]

"The latest suspect was released with a surprising alibi"

I can just about guess what they're going to bring up

Can You?

I shudder to guess but I imagine it will only be a re-hash of the homosexuality.

[statinmyopinion2]

"The latest suspect was released with a surprising alibi"

I can just about guess what they're going to bring up

Can You?

They're going to talk about his sexual orientation.

[Heli]

"The latest suspect was released with a surprising alibi"

I can just about guess what they're going to bring up

Can You?

I shudder to guess but I imagine it will only be a re-hash of the homosexuality.

I think I'll keep the ENO close by because I can hear Hannity already and I'm not in the mood to loose my dinner

[Queen]

"The latest suspect was released with a surprising alibi"

I can just about guess what they're going to bring up

Can You?

They're going to talk about his sexual orientation.

Dunno how it matters or how being gay is an alibi.

[Heli]

"The latest suspect was released with a surprising alibi"

I can just about guess what they're going to bring up

Can You?

They're going to talk about his sexual orientation.

Dunno how it matters or how being gay is an alibi.

It's not an alibi.

Spong merely broached the subject as an important factor that speaks to the unlikelihood that a gay man would be interested in raping a woman. That's not an alibi, it's a fact that speaks to reasonable doubt that his client could be involved in a rape of Natalee Holloway.

[Bean Bag]

"The latest suspect was released with a surprising alibi"

I can just about guess what they're going to bring up

Can You?

They're going to talk about his sexual orientation.

Dunno how it matters or how being gay is an alibi.

It's not an alibi.

Spong merely broached the subject as an important factor that speaks to the unlikelihood that a gay man would be interested in raping a woman. That's not an alibi, it's a fact that speaks to reasonable doubt that his client could be involved in a rape of Natalee Holloway.

have heard/read talk today that it means it would be unlikely he would have a romantic interlude gone wrong -- I have been reading some debate over homosexuality precluding rape. I really have no idea.

[fried]

maybe he would not have raped her, but, if she had laughed and made fun of him for being gay, it might have enraged him to the point of beating the %^#( out of her. but this is only speculation.

[justthefactspls]

maybe he would not have raped her, but, if she had laughed and made fun of him for being gay, it might have enraged him to the point of beating the %^#( out of her. but this is only speculation.

The guy grew up in a country that's overwhelmingly catholic. Where a lesbian couple had to leave because they were treated unfairly. I sincerely doubt that that scenario would have been the first time someone had something negative to say. Particularly in a place that sees so many tourists from cultures with varying degrees of tolerance.

There's been no hint of a history of violence in this guy's background. He hasn't flipped out about it and now announces it to the world when there was really no need to (he was already being released). So I don't put any credibility in that speculative scenario.

[amicus]

maybe he would not have raped her, but, if she had laughed and made fun of him for being gay, it might have enraged him to the point of beating the %^#( out of her. but this is only speculation.

Gay baiting? I don't see it. She might have done it-- if in fact she made the comments alleged about K2, she was not functioning in good judgment mode, but would it have bothered him if she was ignorant? He appears to be quite comfortable with his sexual orientation. It's people who are conflicted who have the most problems.

[Heli]

NOT VERBATIM NOT COMPLETE

Hannity & Colmes

Allan:

The lawyer for Guido Wever says his client does not make a good suspect because he's gay. Linda, if he was an accessory why does it matter that he's gay?

Linda Allison:

I heard that his sexual orientation is why he was released and I don't understand that at all. It has nothing to do with being an accessory or if you have information about Natalee's disappearance.

Allan

Whose word are they taking about his sexual orientation? Everytime there's a new suspect, is it a roller coaster ride for you and the family; it must be.

Linda:

It is definitely an emotional roller coaster ride and if you look at the events for this particular suspect, you can't help but grasp hope for this one, althought it's alleged that the charges brought were that he was involved with battery and murder and that's the shotgun approach they always take, then when they look at the evidence they have to release him, however it looks like that's how their system works.

ALlan

Are there other people who haven't been made public that should be questioned?

Linda

I do think there are some friends of the 3 suspects that may have been questioned and need to be brought back again. There's a witness they've been questioning lately, he was at the beach that night and potentially witnessed or actually said there was an occurrence that happened at the beach, later he was able to obtain some forensic evidence

Allen

Yesterday we had Joe Tacopina on our show and he says that his client is innocent, do you disagree with that?

Linda:

We do know that the police remain focused on the 3 original suspects. You see that each time a suspect is brought in and held for 3 days or 6 days but those 3 suspects were detained the longest, which still doesn't mean they're guilty of murder but there's info there that they're not sharing

Sean:

I want to go back to what you mentioned before, that they are questioning this witness who was there the night of Natalee's disappearance, talking about an occurrence at the beach and some forensic evidence

Linda

This is information that came to light about a week ago, I don't have any other info at this time, but I hope that this witness is credible

Sean:

A witness or potential guilty party or somebody responsible

Linda

Actually this individual was a witness to observe some things that occurred on the beach.

Sean:

Did they witness something with Joran?

Linda:

I really can't elaborate at this point, we've had a witness that saw the 3 suspects, the gardener, he was an illegal alien and I think it's with this one as well Ppl can come and go that are not citizens, it was discussed early on

Sean:

One question about the occurrence, are we talking about sexual or violent activity?

Linda:

I'm not sure of those details, I just know an occurrence was observed

Sean:

This pattern of behaviour of the LE, they find somebody, put him in jail, hopes are raised and it sputters out. Haven't they lost credibilty with you and the family and even with the people or Aruba?

Linda:

With each arrest we think they may come closer, we're hopeful that GUido was co-operative, that he answered all the questions truthfully.

[Vox_Veritas]

Honestly, the kid seems out and proud, with a supportive family. He probably didn't need his mother setting him up on a prom date. I doubt anything a big-nosed, flat-chested drunken and well-loved child from 'Bama said to him could have driven him off the deep end.
But...ya never know...maybe she was the spittin' image of Beth.

[refugee_lurker]

"The latest suspect was released with a surprising alibi"

I can just about guess what they're going to bring up

Can You?

They're going to talk about his sexual orientation.

Dunno how it matters or how being gay is an alibi.

It's not an alibi.

Spong merely broached the subject as an important factor that speaks to the unlikelihood that a gay man would be interested in raping a woman. That's not an alibi, it's a fact that speaks to reasonable doubt that his client could be involved in a rape of Natalee Holloway.

I think it also makes it more unlikely that Joran and Guido were close friends. They are more likely tennis buddies as Joran and Guido have said, rather than "night on the town" buddies.

I hope you got Linda Allison tonight. She sounded like Beth with her non answers to Sean about their new witness.

Edited to Add:

Great you got Linda! She must be talking about a Jossy witness.

[Queen]

Are they really saying he was released cause he is gay? They must be nuts. It probably goes more like he told what he knew or knew nothing. Crazy for the HMI crazies to be saying he was released due to being gay. Figures.

[refugee_lurker]

Are they really saying he was released cause he is gay? They must be nuts. It probably goes more like he told what he knew or knew nothing. Crazy for the HMI crazies to be saying he was released due to being gay. Figures.

His attorney evidently said this. They did have him on murder charges. So it is less likely that he murdered her, since he would have no interest in her and probably wasn't a "night on the town" buddy of Joran's.

[fried]

this is pure speculation.
why does it have to be about sex?
he was a croupier, he worked the gambling tables. could it have just as easily been about money? Joran won some money back. maybe there was more than luck involved. maybe more was wanted.
again, there is nothing to this but a wild imagination.

[Vox_Veritas]

this is pure speculation.
why does it have to be about sex?

Because according to Scott Barbar, "This is a case of simple sexual assault"

[Isanah]

this is pure speculation.
why does it have to be about sex?

Because according to Scott Barbar, "This is a case of simple sexual assault"

Can this case get any stranger?

[fried]

this is pure speculation.
why does it have to be about sex?

Because according to Scott Barbar, "This is a case of simple sexual assault"

and who made him god almighty?

oh yeah, bht

[victims cry]

this is pure speculation.
why does it have to be about sex?

Because according to Scott Barbar, "This is a case of simple sexual assault"

Very very good point!

[refugee_lurker]

this is pure speculation.
why does it have to be about sex?
he was a croupier, he worked the gambling tables. could it have just as easily been about money? Joran won some money back. maybe there was more than luck involved. maybe more was wanted.
again, there is nothing to this but a wild imagination.

Yes, all of it is speculation. I think a drug overdose is more likely, but others believe she may have drowned, others believe she is still alive. Any of these scenarios is just as likely as a murder.

[victims cry]

I say very good point, because it shows how foolish that argument of barbers was, and can come back to bite. Even tho guido is not in the civil suit, and it isnt "connected" to the criminal... it still came back to bite him

[justthefactspls]

this is pure speculation.
why does it have to be about sex?
he was a croupier, he worked the gambling tables. could it have just as easily been about money? Joran won some money back. maybe there was more than luck involved. maybe more was wanted.
again, there is nothing to this but a wild imagination.

I don't get your point about money here. Are you speculating that two teenage boys beats the casino security and pit bosses. For a couple hundred dollars?

[JesseLee]

Re Guido and the gay issue -- Spong was interviewed on Greta's show. Spong said there was speculation Guido used make up to cover the scratches on his face. This was the only reference Spong made about Guido being gay. That he might wear makeup.

Right, the scratches the casino workers tell police about nine months later. Said scratches on Guido's face were not seen when they interviewed him three days after Natalee's disappearance.

[fried]

this is pure speculation.
why does it have to be about sex?
he was a croupier, he worked the gambling tables. could it have just as easily been about money? Joran won some money back. maybe there was more than luck involved. maybe more was wanted.
again, there is nothing to this but a wild imagination.

I don't get your point about money here. Are you speculating that two teenage boys beats the casino security and pit bosses. For a couple hundred dollars?

why not? it is just as likely a scenario as any other. people have been killed for far less.

my point is that there are many possibilities, we can not focus on just a sexual situation. this entire case has revolved around sex, gang rape, promiscuity, that is only one thing. that has been the problem, in my opinion, no one, in the investigation has been willing to look other places, to look at other causes, there are many, and each has its on conclusion.